2 April 2007

Mr Jon Nelson
International Accounting Standards Board
30 Cannon Street
London EC 4M 6 XH
UNITED KINGDOM
commentletters@iasb.org

Dear Sir David

Discussion Paper - Fair Value Measurements

The Group of 100 (G100) which is an organisation representing the interests of chief financial officers and senior finance executives of Australia's major business enterprises is pleased to provide comments on the Discussion Paper 'Fair Value Measurements'. Our responses in respect of the questions raised are set out below.

Q1.  In your view, would a single source of guidance for all fair value measurements in IFRSs both reduce complexity and improve consistency in measuring fair value? Why or why not?

The G100 supports the proposal to have a single point of reference and guidance on the application of fair value measurements as required in various IASB Standards. This should not, however, be interpreted as support for the same approach being taken for assets and liabilities. The G100 considers that what constitutes an appropriate measure of fair value will depend on the circumstances in which the fair value is being determined.
 

Q2. Is there fair value measurement guidance in IFRSs that you believe is preferable to the provisions of SFAS 157? If so, please explain.

Yes. The G100 does not support the universal application of an exit value approach to determining fair values. The guidance in SFAS 157 reflects a North American environment where markets are more developed and the use of fair values in financial statements is not as common as occurs in IFRSs. The guidance in IFRSs focuses more directly on the requirements of the particular circumstances and application of the Standard. It is suggested that the principles which apply in these examples (as occurs in respect of IAS 40 'Investment Property') be reflected in a single source of guidance.
 

Q3. Do you agree that fair value should be defined as an exit price from the perspective of a market participant that holds the asset or owes the liability? Why or why not?

The reliance on exit prices as a measure of fair value is not appropriate in all circumstances. The G100 believes that this does not give sufficient weight to the intentions of management and directors.

The financial statements are those of the reporting entity and as such they should reflect the perspective of the entity as a going concern (continuity of existence) rather than that of a hypothetical market participant. Seeking the perspective of an external market participant introduces a degree of artificiality to the process of determining a fair value. Whether an exit price or entry price is used to determine fair value to the entity will depend on the circumstances and management's intention in relation to the asset/liability.
 

Q4. Do you believe an entry price also reflects current market-based expectations of flows of economic benefit into or out of the entity? Why or why not? Additionally, do you agree with the view that, excluding transaction costs, entry and exit prices will differ only when they occur in different markets? Please provide a basis for your views.

The G100 agrees that in an informed market entry prices are an appropriate basis for determining fair values.
 

Q5. Would it be advisable to eliminate the term 'fair value' and replace it with terms, such as 'current exit price' or current entry price', that more closely reflect the measurement objective for each situation? Please provide a basis for your views.

No. The G100 believes that the term 'fair value' is an established concept in accounting terminology and has been widely used in accounting standards for several years, in particular, in IFRSs. While the concept of fair value may have its defects it is understood by preparers and users of financial statements. The G100 considers that as a broad concept 'fair value' may be based on an exit price in some circumstances and an entry price in other circumstances. It is more appropriate for the approach to determining fair values to reflect the intentions of management and the point of view of the entity rather than mandating one approach in preference to others.
 

Q6. Does the exit price measurement objective in SFAS 157 differ from fair value measurements in IFRSs as applied in practice? If so, which fair value measurements in IFRSs differ from the measurement objective in SFAS 157? In those circumstances, is the measurement objective as applied in practice an entry price? If not, what is the measurement objective applied in practice? Please provide a basis for your views.

In most cases the objectives for the use of fair values in IFRS and in SFAS 157 are similar. The G100 supports the standard-by-standard review of the existing fair value requirements in IFRSs because the blanket adoption of the SFAS 157 approach may lead to different outcomes than occur at present. If this were to occur the guidance would, in effect, be amending existing requirements.
 

Q7. Do you agree with how the market participant view is articulated in SFAS 157? Why or why not?

No. The G100 has concerns about the notion of a market participant and the relevance of this perspective to determining measurements included in the entity's financial statements. This is particularly the case where markets are not deep and liquid ' a situation which exists in respect of most assets and in most jurisdictions.
 

Q8. Do you agree that the market participant view in SFAS 157 is consistent with the concepts of 'knowledgeable, willing parties' and 'arm's length transaction' as defined in IFRSs? If not, how do you believe they differ?

Yes.
 

Q9. Do you agree that the fair value of a liability should be based on the price that would be paid to transfer the liability to a market participant? Why or why not?

No. The G100 believes that the fair value of a liability is the amount that the entity is required to pay in order to settle it. Transfers of liabilities to third parties is not a common means of discharging of most types of liabilities. In the vast majority of cases it is management's intention to settle a liability rather than to discharge it by seeking a market transfer.
 

Q10. Does the transfer measurement objective for liabilities in SFAS 157 differ from fair value measurements required by IFRSs as applied in practice? If so, in practice which fair value measurements under IFRSs differ from the transfer measurement objective in SFAS 157 and how do they differ?

Yes. Other than some financial liabilities there are few instances in IFRSs of liabilities being measured at fair value.
 

Q11. In your view is it appropriate to use a measurement that includes inputs that are not observable in a market as fair value at initial recognition, even if this measurement differs from the transaction price? Alternatively, in your view, in the absence of a fair value measurement based solely on observable market inputs, should the transaction price be presumed to be fair value at initial recognition, thereby potentially resulting in the deferral of day-one gains and losses? Please give reasons for your views.

The G100 considers that the transaction price is the most appropriate measure of assets and liabilities at initial recognition. However, in a business combination, the process of allocation of the transaction price may use inputs that are not observable in a market to determine the fair value of some items.
 

Q12. Do you believe that the provisions of SFAS 157, considered in conjunction with the unit of account guidance in IAS 39, would result in a portfolio-based valuation of identifiable risks of instruments considered in aggregate, or an in-exchange exit price for the individual instruments? Please give reasons for your views?

The G100 considers that the proposals in the DP, taken with the guidance in IAS 39, would result in an in-exchange exit price in respect of individual financial instruments.
 

Q13. Q13 Do you agree that a fair value measurement should be based on the principal market for the asset or liability or, in the absence of a principal market, the most advantageous market for the asset or liability? Why or why not?

Yes, where the markets are deep and liquid. In other cases it is problematical as to what constitutes the most advantageous market and whose perspective is adopted: that of the entity or that of a market participant.
 

Q14. Do you agree that a fair value measurement should consider attributes specific to the asset or liability that market participants would consider in pricing the asset or liability? If not, why?

This will depend on the circumstances and the intentions of management. For example, while the attributes relevant to a market participant will be relevant if the intention is to dispose of an asset those attributes may not be relevant where the asset services will be consumed by the entity or where the asset is an integral part of a group of assets.
 

Q15. Do you agree that transaction costs that would be incurred in a transaction to sell an asset or transfer a liability are an attribute of the transaction and not of the asset or liability? If not, why?

While transaction costs are often integral to the acquisition of an asset and the settlement of a liability they are most often an attribute of the transaction rather than the underlying item and a component of the fair value.
 

Q16. Do you agree that the risk of non-performance, including credit risk, should be considered in measuring the fair value of a liability? If not, why not?

Yes.
 

Q17. Is it clear that the 'in-use valuation premise' used to measure the fair value of an asset in SFAS 157 is different from 'value in use' in IAS 36? Why or why not?

The G100 agrees that the two measures are different. As indicated above, the G100 believes that the value in use concept is entity specific and better reflects management's intentions than the SFAS 157 formulation which adopts the perspective of a market participant.
 

Q18. Do you agree with the hierarchy in SFAS 157? If not, why not?

The fair value hierarchy is appropriate in the context of SFAS 157. However, we believe greater emphasis should be given to determining entity-specific measurements rather than relying on assumptions of presumed market participants as occurs in Level 3.
 

Q19. Are the differences between the levels of hierarchy clear? If not, what additional information would be helpful in clarifying the differences between the levels?

Yes, in concept. However, there may be considerable difficulties in practice when one needs to identify a market participant and the attributes that a market participant considers relevant in applying Levels 2 and 3. Examples of the application of the hierarchy for Levels 2 and 3 would provide valuable guidance to preparers.
 

Q20. Do you agree with the provision of SFAS 157 that a blockage adjustment should be prohibited for financial instruments when there is a price for the financial instrument in an active market (Level 1)? In addition, do you agree that this provision should apply as a principle to all level sof the hierarchy? Please provide a basis for your views.

Yes.
 

Q21. Do you agree that fair value measurements should be determined using the price within the bid-ask spread that is more representative of fair value in the circumstances, as prescribed by paragraph 31 of SFAS 157? Alternatively, do you believe that the guidance contained in IFRSs, which generally requires assets to be valued at the bid price and liabilities at the ask price, is more appropriate? Please explain the basis for your view.

The measurement should be that which best represents the fair value in the circumstances and, as such, should be determined as a price within the bid-ask spread. It is not appropriate to specify where in the range the price is determined.
 

Q22. Should a pricing convention (such as mid-market pricing or bid price for assets and ask price for liabilities) be allowed even when another price within the bid-ask spread might be more representative of fair value? Why or why not?

No. See response to Question 21.
 

Q23. Should bid-ask pricing guidance apply to all levels of the hierarchy, including when the fair value measurement includes unobservable inputs? Why or why not?

If the principle applied in Question 21 is adopted then that principle should apply to each of the levels of the hierarchy. The specification of 'rules' or assumptions of convenience should be avoided.
 

Q24. Do the disclosure requirements of SFAS 157 provide sufficient information? If not, what additional disclosures do you believe would be helpful to users and why? Alternatively, are there disclosures required by SFAS 157 that you believe are excessive or not beneficial when considered in conjunction with other disclosures required by IFRSs? Please provide a basis for your view.

The disclosure requirements are extensive, particularly in respect of Levels 2 and 3, and adequate in explaining how the fair value measurements have been determined. However, we question the usefulness of disclosures relating to the assumptions etc which are made in applying and complying with the requirements.
 

Q25. Does the guidance in Appendices A and B of SFAS 157 sufficiently illustrate the standard's principles and provisions as they would apply in emerging or developing markets? If not, please specify what additional guidance you believe is needed and why.

While the guidance is adequate in respect of Level 1 of the hierarchy the G100 suggests that guidance in respect of Levels 2 and 3 should be expanded to include illustrations of applying the Standard in specific cases. This is particularly so for those jurisdictions where deep and liquid markets for a wide range of assets and liabilities are not common.
 

Q26. Does the guidance in Appendices A and B of SFAS 157 sufficiently illustrate the standard's principles and provisions as they would apply in emerging or developing markets? If not, please specify what additional guidance you believe is needed and the most effective way to provide this guidance (for example, through additional implementation guidance or through focused education efforts?

Refer response to Question 25.

Yours sincerely

Tom Honan
National President