2 April 2007
Mr Jon
Nelson
International Accounting Standards Board
30 Cannon Street
London EC 4M 6 XH
UNITED KINGDOM
commentletters@iasb.org
Dear Sir David
Discussion Paper - Fair Value Measurements
The Group of 100 (G100) which is an organisation representing the interests of chief financial officers and senior finance executives of Australia's major business enterprises is pleased to provide comments on the Discussion Paper 'Fair Value Measurements'. Our responses in respect of the questions raised are set out below.
| Q1. | In your view, would a single source of guidance for all fair
value measurements in IFRSs both reduce complexity and improve
consistency in measuring fair value? Why or why not? The G100
supports the proposal to have a single point of reference and guidance
on the application of fair value measurements as required in various
IASB Standards. This should not, however, be interpreted as support for
the same approach being taken for assets and liabilities. The G100
considers that what constitutes an appropriate measure of fair value
will depend on the circumstances in which the fair value is being
determined. |
| Q2. |
Is there fair value measurement guidance in IFRSs that you believe
is preferable to the provisions of SFAS 157? If so, please explain.
Yes. The G100 does not support the universal application of an exit
value approach to determining fair values. The guidance in SFAS 157
reflects a North American environment where markets are more developed
and the use of fair values in financial statements is not as common as
occurs in IFRSs. The guidance in IFRSs focuses more directly on the
requirements of the particular circumstances and application of the
Standard. It is suggested that the principles which apply in these
examples (as occurs in respect of IAS 40 'Investment Property') be
reflected in a single source of guidance. |
| Q3. |
Do you agree that fair value should be defined as an exit price
from the perspective of a market participant that holds the asset or
owes the liability? Why or why not? The reliance on exit prices as a measure of fair value is not appropriate in all circumstances. The G100 believes that this does not give sufficient weight to the intentions of management and directors. The financial statements are those of the reporting entity and as
such they should reflect the perspective of the entity as a going
concern (continuity of existence) rather than that of a hypothetical
market participant. Seeking the perspective of an external market
participant introduces a degree of artificiality to the process of
determining a fair value. Whether an exit price or entry price is used
to determine fair value to the entity will depend on the circumstances
and management's intention in relation to the asset/liability. |
| Q4. |
Do you believe an entry price also reflects current market-based
expectations of flows of economic benefit into or out of the entity? Why
or why not? Additionally, do you agree with the view that, excluding
transaction costs, entry and exit prices will differ only when they
occur in different markets? Please provide a basis for your views.
The G100 agrees that in an informed market entry prices are an
appropriate basis for determining fair values. |
| Q5. |
Would it be advisable to eliminate the term 'fair value' and
replace it with terms, such as 'current exit price' or current entry
price', that more closely reflect the measurement objective for each
situation? Please provide a basis for your views. No. The G100
believes that the term 'fair value' is an established concept in
accounting terminology and has been widely used in accounting standards
for several years, in particular, in IFRSs. While the concept of fair
value may have its defects it is understood by preparers and users of
financial statements. The G100 considers that as a broad concept 'fair
value' may be based on an exit price in some circumstances and an entry
price in other circumstances. It is more appropriate for the approach to
determining fair values to reflect the intentions of management and the
point of view of the entity rather than mandating one approach in
preference to others. |
| Q6. |
Does the exit price measurement objective in SFAS 157 differ from
fair value measurements in IFRSs as applied in practice? If so, which
fair value measurements in IFRSs differ from the measurement objective
in SFAS 157? In those circumstances, is the measurement objective as
applied in practice an entry price? If not, what is the measurement
objective applied in practice? Please provide a basis for your views.
In most cases the objectives for the use of fair values in IFRS and in
SFAS 157 are similar. The G100 supports the standard-by-standard review
of the existing fair value requirements in IFRSs because the blanket
adoption of the SFAS 157 approach may lead to different outcomes than
occur at present. If this were to occur the guidance would, in effect,
be amending existing requirements. |
| Q7. |
Do you agree with how the market participant view is articulated
in SFAS 157? Why or why not? No. The G100 has concerns about
the notion of a market participant and the relevance of this perspective
to determining measurements included in the entity's financial
statements. This is particularly the case where markets are not deep and
liquid ' a situation which exists in respect of most assets and in most
jurisdictions. |
| Q8. |
Do you agree that the market participant view in SFAS 157 is
consistent with the concepts of 'knowledgeable, willing parties' and
'arm's length transaction' as defined in IFRSs? If not, how do you
believe they differ? Yes. |
| Q9. |
Do you agree that the fair value of a liability should be based on
the price that would be paid to transfer the liability to a market
participant? Why or why not? No. The G100 believes that the
fair value of a liability is the amount that the entity is required to
pay in order to settle it. Transfers of liabilities to third parties is
not a common means of discharging of most types of liabilities. In the
vast majority of cases it is management's intention to settle a
liability rather than to discharge it by seeking a market transfer. |
| Q10. |
Does the transfer measurement objective for liabilities in SFAS
157 differ from fair value measurements required by IFRSs as applied in
practice? If so, in practice which fair value measurements under IFRSs
differ from the transfer measurement objective in SFAS 157 and how do
they differ? Yes. Other than some financial liabilities there
are few instances in IFRSs of liabilities being measured at fair value. |
| Q11. |
In your view is it appropriate to use a measurement that includes
inputs that are not observable in a market as fair value at initial
recognition, even if this measurement differs from the transaction
price? Alternatively, in your view, in the absence of a fair value
measurement based solely on observable market inputs, should the
transaction price be presumed to be fair value at initial recognition,
thereby potentially resulting in the deferral of day-one gains and
losses? Please give reasons for your views. The G100 considers
that the transaction price is the most appropriate measure of assets and
liabilities at initial recognition. However, in a business combination,
the process of allocation of the transaction price may use inputs that
are not observable in a market to determine the fair value of some
items. |
| Q12. |
Do you believe that the provisions of SFAS 157, considered in
conjunction with the unit of account guidance in IAS 39, would result in
a portfolio-based valuation of identifiable risks of instruments
considered in aggregate, or an in-exchange exit price for the individual
instruments? Please give reasons for your views? The G100
considers that the proposals in the DP, taken with the guidance in IAS
39, would result in an in-exchange exit price in respect of individual
financial instruments. |
| Q13. |
Q13 Do you agree that a fair value measurement should be based on
the principal market for the asset or liability or, in the absence of a
principal market, the most advantageous market for the asset or
liability? Why or why not? Yes, where the markets are deep and
liquid. In other cases it is problematical as to what constitutes the
most advantageous market and whose perspective is adopted: that of the
entity or that of a market participant. |
| Q14. |
Do you agree that a fair value measurement should consider
attributes specific to the asset or liability that market participants
would consider in pricing the asset or liability? If not, why?
This will depend on the circumstances and the intentions of management.
For example, while the attributes relevant to a market participant will
be relevant if the intention is to dispose of an asset those attributes
may not be relevant where the asset services will be consumed by the
entity or where the asset is an integral part of a group of assets. |
| Q15. |
Do you agree that transaction costs that would be incurred in a
transaction to sell an asset or transfer a liability are an attribute of
the transaction and not of the asset or liability? If not, why?
While transaction costs are often integral to the acquisition of an
asset and the settlement of a liability they are most often an attribute
of the transaction rather than the underlying item and a component of
the fair value. |
| Q16. |
Do you agree that the risk of non-performance, including credit
risk, should be considered in measuring the fair value of a liability?
If not, why not? Yes. |
| Q17. |
Is it clear that the 'in-use valuation premise' used to measure
the fair value of an asset in SFAS 157 is different from 'value in use'
in IAS 36? Why or why not? The G100 agrees that the two
measures are different. As indicated above, the G100 believes that the
value in use concept is entity specific and better reflects management's
intentions than the SFAS 157 formulation which adopts the perspective of
a market participant. |
| Q18. |
Do you agree with the hierarchy in SFAS 157? If not, why not?
The fair value hierarchy is appropriate in the context of SFAS 157.
However, we believe greater emphasis should be given to determining
entity-specific measurements rather than relying on assumptions of
presumed market participants as occurs in Level 3. |
| Q19. |
Are the differences between the levels of hierarchy clear? If not,
what additional information would be helpful in clarifying the
differences between the levels? Yes, in concept. However,
there may be considerable difficulties in practice when one needs to
identify a market participant and the attributes that a market
participant considers relevant in applying Levels 2 and 3. Examples of
the application of the hierarchy for Levels 2 and 3 would provide
valuable guidance to preparers. |
| Q20. |
Do you agree with the provision of SFAS 157 that a blockage
adjustment should be prohibited for financial instruments when there is
a price for the financial instrument in an active market (Level 1)? In
addition, do you agree that this provision should apply as a principle
to all level sof the hierarchy? Please provide a basis for your views.
Yes. |
| Q21. |
Do you agree that fair value measurements should be determined
using the price within the bid-ask spread that is more representative of
fair value in the circumstances, as prescribed by paragraph 31 of SFAS
157? Alternatively, do you believe that the guidance contained in IFRSs,
which generally requires assets to be valued at the bid price and
liabilities at the ask price, is more appropriate? Please explain the
basis for your view. The measurement should be that which best
represents the fair value in the circumstances and, as such, should be
determined as a price within the bid-ask spread. It is not appropriate
to specify where in the range the price is determined. |
| Q22. |
Should a pricing convention (such as mid-market pricing or bid
price for assets and ask price for liabilities) be allowed even when
another price within the bid-ask spread might be more representative of
fair value? Why or why not? No. See response to
Question 21. |
| Q23. |
Should bid-ask pricing guidance apply to all levels of the
hierarchy, including when the fair value measurement includes
unobservable inputs? Why or why not? If the principle applied
in Question 21 is adopted then that principle should
apply to each of the levels of the hierarchy. The specification of
'rules' or assumptions of convenience should be avoided. |
| Q24. |
Do the disclosure requirements of SFAS 157 provide sufficient
information? If not, what additional disclosures do you believe would be
helpful to users and why? Alternatively, are there disclosures required
by SFAS 157 that you believe are excessive or not beneficial when
considered in conjunction with other disclosures required by IFRSs?
Please provide a basis for your view. The disclosure
requirements are extensive, particularly in respect of Levels 2 and 3,
and adequate in explaining how the fair value measurements have been
determined. However, we question the usefulness of disclosures relating
to the assumptions etc which are made in applying and complying with the
requirements. |
| Q25. |
Does the guidance in Appendices A and B of SFAS 157 sufficiently
illustrate the standard's principles and provisions as they would apply
in emerging or developing markets? If not, please specify what
additional guidance you believe is needed and why. While the
guidance is adequate in respect of Level 1 of the hierarchy the G100
suggests that guidance in respect of Levels 2 and 3 should be expanded
to include illustrations of applying the Standard in specific cases.
This is particularly so for those jurisdictions where deep and liquid
markets for a wide range of assets and liabilities are not common. |
| Q26. |
Does the guidance in Appendices A and B of SFAS 157 sufficiently
illustrate the standard's principles and provisions as they would apply
in emerging or developing markets? If not, please specify what
additional guidance you believe is needed and the most effective way to
provide this guidance (for example, through additional implementation
guidance or through focused education efforts? Refer response to Question 25. |
Yours sincerely
Tom Honan
National President